Soul Manipulation Thaumaturgy

[Khyron1144]

Here's an idea I had for a thaumaturgy path. I want
opinions on the level of twinkiness. I'm not posting fully
written out mechanics(exactly which die pool is used,
exact difficulties, etc), just abreviated descriptions of the effects at each level.
Soul Manipulation Thaumaturgy
As many already know, the increase in power that
comes from diablery is from absorbing the soul of the
victim. These souls become attached to the diablerist's
aura, thus explaining the black streaks. This path
deals with making good use of these souls. Some
believe it to have been devoloped by a Gehenna cult,
wishing to have an antediluvian under their thumb to
use. Of course, no such antediluvian has been created
yet.

Level 1: Speak With Soul- This allows the diablerist
speak to any of the souls attached to his auara. The
soul is under no obligation to speak truthfully, answer
the question asked, or otherwise be cooperative.

Level 2: Hide the Sin- It costs a willpower to activate for
a scene and hides the tell-tale black streaks in the
diablerist's aura.

Level 3: Dialberize Mortal- This allows the Dialberist to
absorb the soul of any creature including normal
humans, fae, lupines, and mages.

Level 4: Voluntary Possesion- this allows the diablerist
to temporarily put a soul he has absorbed into the
driver's seat under his direction. The diablerist gains
the benefit of the subject's knowledges, disciplines
(excepting fortitude, potence, celerity, and protean) or
other supernatural abilities (excepting fae birthrights
and werecreature shape-changing and rage), and
mental attributes.
A botch is very bad. The diablerist is forced into a
subserviant role in his own body, while another soul
takes charge. How long this lasts is up to the ST.

Level 5-Combine Souls- This turns five vampiric souls
the diablerist has absorbed into one. This
conglomerate soul has a generation one lower than the
highest generation soul in it. It has the knowledges of
all the souls it is composed of. Its willpower is equal to
the best among the five. It also gets the best mental
attribtes and charisma and manipulation among the
five. To find disciplines possessed by this
conglomerate soul, first find the best score in each
discipline these five souls have. Then make note of
these scores. Each discipline has a fifty percent
chance of being completely lost in the transition. Now,
once it has been ascertained which disciplines are
retained at all, check for each dot, starting at the highest level and using that same fifty percent chance of being forgotten.

If an attempt to invoke this power botches the diablerist loses the five lowest generation vampire souls attached to his aura completely for purposes of beneifts, but not the black veins.

[Khyron1144]

This is someone else's refinement of it:


This probably should be a Discipline, and should
not be available to any vamp on the Path of
Humanity, et al. For a Laibon, it is a sin against
both Orun and Aye, and using, or perhaps even
knowing, its higher powers (L4+) will reduce the
Laibon's Virtues to those of a murderer of both
mortals and fellow vampires.

L1 Speak with Soul - as given. Roll is
Manipulation + Occult. On a botch, user is
attacked by the soul's wraith, as a specter with
claws and bite, and any non physical powers that
it had in life.

L2 Wraith Watcher - costs 1 W.P, roll is
Manipulation + Occult, lasts one night. Draws out
a soul to act as a wraith watchdog/spy, with NO
powers other than Mental and Social Attributes.
On a botch the wraith attacks as per L1.

L3 Hide the Sin - costs 1 W.P. and 1 B.P.
Charisma + Occult. On a botch, the veins will be
apparent to anyone using Auspex, automatically,
for one night per soul that she has ever
diablerized.

L4 Diablerize Mortal - same rolls are required
as for diablerizing a vampire, plus a
Wits + Occult roll at the end with difficulties
bases on the type of living creature being
drained (mortal < mage < fea < garou). A botch
on ANY of these roles results in a permenant
split personality derangement, only cureable by
some form of exorcism, which will probably lower
this Discipline's rating to 3 dots if successful.

L5 Voluntary Possession - as given. Roll is
Manipulation + Occult, difficulty based on
generation (or Rank, Avatar, etc) of the soul.
Lasts for one night. It should be very hard to
botch for a mortal soul, and if it does the
effects should last for the shortest relative
time.

L6 Blood of the Eldest - lowers the user's
generation to that of the lowest generation
vampire she has ever diablerized, until the next
night. Roll is Wits + Occult. On a botch the user
is reduced to 15th generation until the next night.

L7 Combine Souls - as given. Roll is
Manipulation + Occult. On a botch, the Traits of
the souls will be lost. The stain of diablerie
will not. This can be used to decrease the user's
generation by diablerizing 5 of her own generation,
25 of her childers', etc, or to create a more
powerful soul for use with the L5 power.

L8 Erase the Sin - starting with full B.P. and
W.P. pools, the users spends all of it and
immediately falls into torpor for one day per
soul that currently stains her aura. After that
she rolls Charisma + Occult. If she succeeds,
all of the veins of diablerie are cleaned away.
If she botches, she remains in torpor for as long
as her Path rating dictates, and a Physical
Attribute dot will be lost to torpor. Otherwise
the torpor is volentary, and no dot is lost.

L9 Immortal Soul - the vampire is virtually
immune to diablerie. If another vampire attempts
it, the user rolls Wits + Occult vs. 6. On even
one success she will take over her diablerist's
body. Initially It will have its original
Physical Attributes, Appearence, and Physical
Flaws, but within a week it will transform into
her own, but will have the higher of the Physical
Attributes of the two vampires. Hr aura will show
the stain as if she had been the diablerist. If
her roll fails, the diablerie will still fail,
and she will be in involuntary torpor, but the
vampire that tried to drain her soul will be
unable to try again until the night following her
rising. Only if her roll botches will the
diablerie succeed.

L10 (if any rise to this level) Eternal Soul -
as L9 (which must be known - no alternate L9
power will suffice), but on a botch the diablerie
still fails. The user's body turns to dust and her
soul escapes as a wraith, with all non physical
Discipline powers as wraithly powers fueled by
Angst where B.P. would otherwise be needed. As a
vampiric wraith, only sunlight and faith can
destroy her totally. If she has any powers that
allow her to possess a victim, she will attempt
to use them to regain flesh; otherwise she will
set her sights on gaining them as a wraith. If
she succeeds in possessing someone, she rolls
Courage + Occult vs. the victim's Humanity or
Path, once per night, accumulating successes
until they are greater than that Path. At this
point the victim's soul is subsumed as if it were
a diablerized soul. The body will transform as
per the L9 power, and will become undead after
three nights if it wasn't already, but sunlight
will do aggrevated damage from the moment the
body's original soul is subsumed, and will
destroy the vampire's soul if it destroys the
body. On a botch during the extended roll, the
user's soul is expelled, and will not be able
to possess the same body again. Of course the
user will most desire to possess her killer's
body, and must roll Willpower to keep from
trying, once per scene, if the opportunity
presents itself.